You're having a terrible week dude....first this silly list, then the silly twenty free throws from Lebron prediction, then getting punked by Lebron at the post game presser, and now you're getting clowned by Whitlock of all people! Too funny :)

Lebron is not a top ten all time player, not even close. I can appreciate outside the box thinking but not to the point of absurdity. In ten years things may change but there is a lot of work to be done. Besides, as you pointed out to Lebron himself, he continues to melt in the big moments.

Shaq isn't top ten all time either and Dwyane Wade, Pete Maravich and Elvin Hayes aren't just outside looking in.

Wilt, Russel,West, Baylor and jessie Owens would have dominated in any era, They would have used the same modern day technics that todays athletes use. Besides all of the above where a lot smartt than todays athletes

Got to disagree with Kobe and Lebron in favor of Duncan and Hakeem. Why, Duncan is the best PF to ever play the game and he has more finals MVP's and League MVP's than Kobe and More Finals MVP's than Lebron. Hakeem has as many Finals MVP's and League MVP's as Kobe, but he also has 2 Defensive player of the year awards.

Kobe will end up with more points than both players but he's nowhere near as efficient nor has he ever been able to dominate a game in any other way but FGA's. Neither Duncan or Hakeem have ever been outplayed by their counterparts in the finals. Kobe has been outplayed by, Miller, Iverson, Pierce and Hamilton in the finals!

I agree with Jordan, Kobe is a top ten guard but not a top ten player and with 15 yrs in the rear view mirror and only 1 MVP, the media and everybody that votes for that award would agree! Can't be an all time great outplaying Courtney (bench warmer) Lee and Kerry Kittles in the finals. Not to mention going 6 for 24 and 6 turnovers in a game 7, that is sort of anti-Jordan isn't it?

I agree with Pipen, if Lebron starts winning rings he could end up as the all time greatest or at least in the top five! he can dominate the game in every way!

Do I really think Elgin Baylor and Jerry West are any better than Dwyane Wade?  Definitely.  Look I know Russell dominated his day but there were only 8 teams and he had a starting lineup of all HOFers.  Would Russell be a superstar in today's game?  Doubtful.  I'll guarantee he wouldn't win 11 titles.  He shot 44% as a big man with an atrocious 56.1% from the FT line.  By all accounts he was an amazing rebounder and defender but that doesn't generate much excitement unless you found Mutombo incredibly exciting.   but that alone does not make you a superstar otherwise Mutombo would have been considered a superstar.   However, the point of my post is that although I do not think Russell was a talent for the ages, he was, along with Wilt, the dominant talent of his age.  He rightfully deserves his place among the Top 5 players of all-time because of what he accomplished during his day.


It's not about what you could do if you had a time machine and go back to previous generations and compete.  Think of Jesse Owens.  The man is regarded as one of the greatest Track and Field athletes of all-time because of his dominance yet his times wouldn't even win a modern day college meet. 

Do I really think Elgin Baylor and Jerry West are any better than Dwyane Wade?  Definitely.  Look I know Russell dominated his day but there were only 8 teams and he had a starting lineup of all HOFers.  Would Russell be a superstar in today's game?  Doubtful.  &n
bsp;I'll guarantee he wouldn't win 11 titles.  He shot 44% as a big man with an atrocious 56.1% from the FT line.  By all accounts he was an amazing rebounder and defender but that doesn't generate much excitement unless you found Mutombo incredibly exciting.  However, the point of my post is that although I do not think Russell was a talent for the ages, he was, along with Wilt, the dominant talent of his age.  He rightfully deserves his place among the Top 5 players of all-time because of what he accomplished during his day.


It's not about what you could do if you had a time machine and go back to previous generations and compete.  Think of Jesse Owens.  The man is regarded as one of the greatest Track and Field athletes of all-time because of his dominance yet his times wouldn't even win a modern day college meet.