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Really starting to like BYU

Posted on: March 2, 2011 6:27 am
I don't understand Brigham Young. Not the man, not the University, not the religion associated with both. I'm not bashing any of them -- just saying, I don't understand them.

But I understand the BYU mission, and at risk of seeming like a naive kid, I love it.

The Cougars care about winning, yes. But they care more about something Jack Nicholson talked about in A Few Good Men. They care about honor, and when one of their best players showed a lack of it -- in some way the rest of us would consider small, I'm guessing -- he was kicked off the team.

Gone is forward Brandon Davies. Gone, too, possibly is the Cougars' No. 1 seed, since the NCAA Tournament selection committee will seed BYU not just on how it played this season, but how the committee thinks it will play without Davies. So how will the Cougars play without Davies? They'll play well, of course. They'll play like an NCAA Tournament team. But they won't play like a No. 1 seed. How could they? Davies was their best inside player, and now he's gone.

That's a debate for another day, but this is clear right now: BYU put honor above wins, possibly even above a national championship, unlike one basketball program I won't mention.

Like I said, I don't "get" Brigham Young. But I like BYU. Even more than when I wrote this story last year.

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Since: Feb 20, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2011 4:04 am

Really starting to like BYU

I appreciated this article, and it is totally consistent with your positions in your previous articles.  High school students with high moral values should be encouraged to maintain those values while in college, even if other college students or the media laugh at them.

Let me respond to those readers that allege without evidence that Davies was singled out because of his race or humiliated by the school.  NOT SO!  The BYU administration did not specify what part of the Honor Code he violated, it only said that he will not be representing the school in any more games this year.  The basketball coach and his teammates all stated publicly that they love and support Brandon Davies and are proud that he told them the truth about his mistake.  The Coach insisted that the team's highlight reel continue to show all of Davies' highlights at the games, Brandon was allowed to sit on the bench with the team at Saturday's game, and he was introduced and helped cut down the net and receive the Conference Championship trophy with the rest of his team after the win.   He received a great round of applause from the crowd, and all Cougar fans appreciate what he has done for the team the last two years.

As Mormon Christians, we know that it is difficult to live a Christ-like life, and we never humiliate one another when we try and fail.  We are all imperfect humans, but we are not afraid to set high standards and goals for ourselves and then do our best to achieve them.

Even if Brother Davies did violate the portion of the Honor Code dealing with sexual conduct, he clearly followed the parts of the Honor Code that asks a student to admit his mistakes rather than covering it up, to apologize to his coach and teammates, and to accept the appropriate consequences for the conduct, which will probably allow him to return to the team in a future season.  Although the team will miss his talents and abilities in the NCAA tournament this year, BYU is only interested in what is best for the student.  Many schools suspend student athletes for poor grades, drunk driving, skipping practices, or violating recruiting rules, either to help train the student or to protect the reputation or eligibility of the school.  BYU's honor code has the same purpose and the same effect.  It helps students like Brandon Davies recognize and fix mistakes in their lives, and it shows that the same honor code rules apply to famous athletes as other students.  You may disagree with this specific rule, but BYU would have violated its own values it it had handled it any differently.

Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2011 3:17 pm

Really starting to like BYU

Since: Feb 24, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2011 12:49 pm

Really starting to like BYU

Since: Mar 11, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2011 11:37 am

Really starting to like BYU

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2011 11:09 am

Really starting to like BYU

First of it saddens me to read many of the responses to this article.  Though I am not a Mormon, or member of the Church of Later day Saints, I do recognize them as a Christian religion, within the Protestant division.  I find it insulting to the sports fans to bring their religious beliefs or philosophies to be a topic of a sports board.  And no, to the best of my knowledge, the honor code of their church sponsored college is not mandated on anybody not attending college there, but whose principles are encouraged by that church.  And BYU is not the only church sponsored college in this Country.

As to living a chaste life, this is a separate problem all colleges have and that few if any other colleges wish to address.  And having sex is basically not a problem that any other college is concerned about, however some of the consequences of sex do create problems.  BYU, despite their so called honor code, is no different than any other college.  Students engage in sexual fun and what the authorities don't know is not a problem until an unplanned pregnancy or an STD makes the honor code violation obvious.

Finally, what is an honor code that allows staff to deliberately mislead officiating crews on televised replays, turn their backs on steroid abuse, falsify scholarship reports (volleyball) or engage in other unscrupulous acts to improve the image of their sports programs.

Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2011 3:24 am

Really starting to like BYU

It seems that Doyel would be a perfect fit for Socialism or Communism.  Strike down all those who make a mistake, and rejoice in the shining light that is truth, honor, and Koolaid.  Seriously Doyel, get over the UT thing.  Its out of your hands.  You by far do not even have the credintials to pass judgement on anyone who messed up.  After all, have you had an original thought in years?  NO!!!  You should never be called a journalist.  You don't actualy research anything, nor do you form thoughts that make any sense.  You just wake up and go "mmmmmmmm doyel hungry.   mmmmmmm doyel write.  mmmmmmmm doyel go sleepy now. 

Seriously.  Its not like Pearl dropped off bags of money to recruits.  It's not like he made 3000 illegal phone calls.  It's not like he gave Shaq's momma car.  He had kids over for some good ole fashioned BBQ.

ADVICE TO DOYEL:  Take the hammer in the picture, and take it to your cpu.

Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: March 5, 2011 2:42 am

Really starting to like BYU

He agreed to the honor code (why anyone would agree to this insanity is beyond me) so  YES breaking the honor code involves consequences. But it is the consequences that have me baffled. Cruelty, humiliation, embarrassment, and shame are all words that come to mind. Definitely not Christ like characteristics if you ask me. I think it is horrible that BYU will throw this kid out to the curb like he is garbage, publicly humiliate him in the press, and ruin his reputation as a normal human being. How is that acceptable treatment, I don't know him personally, but I am pretty sure that I don't think this is what Jesus would do. In fact, regular mormon members of that cult (who are not college students at byu), are treated completely different for sins they may commit. If a high school mormon kid has sex, he goes to his bishop and confesses the sin and has to repent. But he is not thrown to the curb nor is it broad casted to the world nor is he verbally abused. It is a double standard. Throw in that he is an african american athlete and the past three people thrown to the curb by the BYU athletic department all happen to be african americans is disheartening. Where is the NAACP? It makes me sick, and I hate BYU with every bone in my body, I love that their season is ruined, but I hate how they are treating a kid who had a natural urge and acted on it. It's not like he stabbed someone to death..... this is exactly why nobody will be inviting BYU to ever join a BCS conference, this drama and how they discriminate against others (ie. Prop 8). Congrats Yners, your destined to be in the little leagues. Tunnel vision, someone turn on the light! Please stop treating people inhumane!

Since: Jul 17, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2011 10:47 pm

Really starting to like BYU

doyel your an idiot plain and simple

Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2011 1:16 pm

Really starting to like BYU

Two comments;
First things have changed from the days of Jim McMahon. In those days you had to get caught doing something wrong not just rumors.
Brandon Davies waas not caught but confessed. If  Jim McMahon had confessed to the things he was doing he would have been off of the team.
You must have evidence or a confession, not rumors.

Second. You wrongly stated "no caffiene". This is not part of the Honor Code. Below is from the BYU Honor Code web site.

Be honest
Live a chaste and virtuous life
Obey the law and all campus policies
Use clean language
Respect others
Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
Participate regularly in church services
Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code

Since: Oct 14, 2009
Posted on: March 4, 2011 12:12 pm

Really starting to like BYU

So Gregg, you still getting behind this cult suspending the kid for having sex with his girlfriend? Seems like fairly normal behavior for non-cult adolescents to me. If we suspend every athlete who has sex say goodbye to sports.

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